http://www.electricpolitics.com/media/mp3/EP2006.02.07.mp3

Ok, now I could take cheap shots and pickon the creative arts or theater instructors out of this scholarly 77, but I won’t. Of the 77, the majority of members are from the humanities (Philosophy, Law etc.) I’m sure they are intelligent, but they don’t have the work experience, the academic experience, or the research credentials to comment from a professional expert perspective. Of the 2 claiming to be civil engineers, neither is qualified. Doyle Winterton is an elderly gent licensed as a land surveyor with no advanced diploma and no history of academic or research work. Jack Keller the other civil engineer is a specialist in agricultural and irrigation engineering.

In respect to the 2 physicists none come fields that lend themselves to qualified discussion of the subject. As to the founder of the group, Prof. Stephen Jones his work on behalf of the esteemmed Mormon University Brigham Young and his current research on fusion involving deuteron and proton beams speaks for itself. I can understand why someone at BYU would be amenable to this conspiracy theory, as the university is founded and run by an organization that believes the angel Moroni in the 1800’s revealed itself to the American prophet Joseph Smith, who then “translated” golden plates given to him by God into english. BYU and its origins and current use/support is worth looking at since there is an old saying in law that if the tree is poisoned then its fruit too is poisoned, in respect to admisability of evidence. I suppose my view of scholars from a Mormon facility may be tainted by their overall views, so I should admit to being prejudiced against cults and institutional racism. (For the record, I am a white agnostic that usually supports political views that are called left of centre.) My motive for posting is to point at that just because people claim to be experts doesn’t mean they are. I also do not believe that that the US government conspired to blow up the WTC and am perplexed by the unwillingness to accept that a large part of the tragedy was brought about by poor emergency communication, the presence of large amounts of diesel fuel in the basements (to run the emergency generators and NYC disaster HQ) and the fact that buildings do burn and collapse when struck by large fuel laden jet liners. For a smaller example, consider the Alexis Nihon fire in the office tower. The fire on 3 floors caused the building to be judged unsafe and to be demolished.

Here’s an article about academics and engineers who support the conspiracy, and how people hate them.

The “Pancake” theory has already been disproven as a possibility due to the length of time it took for the towers to completely collapse. Type it into Google, and you will immediately be bombarded by countless sites dedicated to debunking that absurd theory. Some will even teach you math so that you can do the calculations yourself!

And yes, many, many “conspiracy theorists” are backed by engineers and academics.

Your closing comment, thankfully, shows you as you are–just a typical American Joe who, by his education and place in society, is unable to respect beliefs different from his own.

All that most reasonable “conspiracy theorists” are asking for is a genuine investigation. We have yet to see one.

In the case of the WTC collapse, look at the Journal of Minerals, metals & Materials. No. 53 (12) (2001), pp. 8-11. It wasn’t the plane collision or the fire alone . It was the loss of the floor joist strength that caused a couple floors to buckle and collapse. With out the box column integrity as the floors collapsed, there was no way that an individual floor could hold more than 2 pancaked floors onto itself.

As for the alleged rocket or missing plane that hit the Pentagon, there are significant parts of the plane leftover and alll parts are easily seen today. the so called supressed images from the Pentagon security camera that caught the images of a missile, was a camer with a “fisheye” lens. When the type of lens is taken into account, the image distortion is explained. Bottom line is that people are pushing out theories that are neither substantiated nor supported by the factts that are plain and visible.

Ask yourself this, why are none of these conspiracy theories supported by any qualified building engineers, scientists with a knowledge of the building trades (materials, dynamics etc.), forensic investigators and aviation experts? The reason is simple, the conspiracy theories cannot be scientifically substaniated. You can do better Jeremy. What’s next? Consulting tealeaves and spirits from the beyond?

And the photo you use at the start of the post looks like it’s had a ‘just for men’ dye job, the smoke has been thickened and blackened.

lots of good free video to be found on the subject at
www.lonelantern.org
they have all of Alex Jones’ videos there and alot of other good 9/11 related video for free download too.

listen to Alex Jones broadcast live every day from his sites. (lots of 9/11 facts/info there too) www.infowars.com and www.prisonplanet.com. This guy seems pretty smart to me. he is definately outspoken on the subject and has alot of reputable guest on his internet/shortwave radio show.